Harley is also doing a Public Relations campaign to get rid of straight-pipes, and control sound levels, somewhat. It just makes sense for Us riders, not to annoy the rest of humanity, for the sake of a very few, when there is actually nothing really-positive about such loud pipes, except the 'look at me, look at me!' syndrome. I have been at the receiving end of such a creton, when at a restaurant, some fool decided to rev-up their engine at a stop light, and it was so loud, that babies cried, patrons started cursing at him, and a fight almost ensued!