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Re: Where are my posts?!?

We don't delete posts, someone must've moderated your post down to -1, in which case, you (and everyone else who didn't specifically set their threshold to -1) won't see it. The post is still there, look at the top of the feedback to set your threshold, and in your user preferences page, there's a "Comments" option where you can set this if you're a registered user.

And yes, there is a profanity filter, it's automatic. Try and be more eloquent, and you won't have problems with this feature!
 

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Re: ZR7 Exclusion

Each manufacturer was told the parameters of this test and was able to chose one bike to represent this category. Kawasaki chose to send us the KLR650. In retrospect, the ZR7 might have given the SV650 more of a run for top spot, but the KLR is a very cool and worthwile option in this group. It offers things that no other bike here is able to and we are glad we had it in the shootout.

We are planning a test of the ZR7, possibly against other similar bikes,

in the near future. Any ideas regarding this, let 'em fly...
 

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glad to hear such good things about the SV-650. It was mentioned the suspension could use a little work though. Anyone have any suggestion? I would like to get one of these little beauties this spring.
 

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Re: Consistency noted after re-reading...

Thus explaining my bias toward the Nighthawk. Durable, reliable, comfortable, sounds like my bag... Depreciation would only bother me if I had a plan to sell, which doesn't sound likely...
 

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Re: Where are my posts?!?

It would be nice if there were an explanation somewhere on how to use the new forum stuff. I actually registered and everything. But I still don't understand this "Moderate" thing. When I push the button, what it is supposed to do? Do I choose whether I like the post or not?

The few times I tried it, it didn't seem to do anything, or at least did not give me choices.
 

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Re: Been there done that and what you get with a Buell is...

Yup. Another clueless anonymous squid chimes in. What the hell do I care about depreciation? What kind of an IDIOT buys a bike with the sole thought of wondering how easy it'll be to unload?? And as for razor sharpness, I've YET to meet the sportbike weenie who can pass me on real roads (not counting race tracks).
 

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You guys got it bass-ackwards. A beginner bike should be a good bike to begin on: good enough to learn on, and something you pass on to other beginners when you're ready to trade up. Learn on the Buell Blast, and you've got everything you need, including room to trade up. Begin on the Suzuki, and you're setting yourself up to be disappointed later. You figure you're doing yourself a favor by trading it in and getting a bigger, more powerful bike, and all of a sudden you realize: "What the -- this thing handles like a PIG ON SKATES! Where's the handling? Why is it so tough to steer? Oh, why did I get rid of my sweet little Suzuki for this warthog??"
 

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SV650 a sportbike?

SV650 is a sportbike? News to me. The SV650S is more along the mold of a sportbike with its partial fairing and much more forward seating position. Being sportbike guys, they'd probably like it even more, though it doesn't quite squeek in under their $6K limit.

The SV650 is more of a classic and is readily comparable to the likes of the 883. But it's a classic with modern interpretation -- and it shows.
 

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Re: Street sport

Suzuki's "street sport" also includes the Bandit series, which is a modern interpretation of the UJM.

But I agree. The SV650 is more a naked sportbike (like the Monster) than a "do-all" standard. I'm not sure where the ZR-7 stands...
 

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You guys really missed the boat on this or used the wrong title. A Value Bike Shootout should be cheap bikes. Right at the begining when you limit yourself to $6000, you've made a mistake. Try $4500 or limit the CCs to 600 or 650 but that still doesn't stop price. If this were truely a comparison of value bikes, best bike for the least money, then where is the Ninja 250? $3000 isn't value? Please!



Also, did you happen to notice that your own rankings basically show that if you pay more money you get more? The last place bike was the cheapest and the first place bike was the most expensive! All you really proved was that the Night Hawk is overpriced by a few hundred if it truely finished below the Harley and the V-Star.



Another personal conclusion I came up with is, don't have a taste test between chocolate cake and pizza, which is what you did in escence. There is no comparison between a Harley 883 and a Buell Blast! The Blast should not be in the comparison. The value bike range is $3000 to $4500 maybe. The bikes you really were comparing were in the $4500 to $6000 range and that two might not be a proper range.



If this is the type of articles I can expect in the future you better not try to charge a subscription price or you will go under!
 

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Re: History, engines...

You want history? Let's see:

Nighthawk 750: An evolution of the original superbike, the CB750 K0

ZR-7: Uses a variation of the same engine that powered Kawasaki's 1983 championship-winning superbike.

ZRX 1200: Yes, it's a Japanese retro, but it's their OWN history they're invoking.

And while we will not partake in the action recommended by the esteemed anonymous spokesman for Ducatisti the world over (does riding Ducatis contort your spine enough so you can do that?), we could quite simply take a SV650 and blow him away...
 

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Re: Read the article--it has nothing to do with payola...

While it is true that the Harley is the most customizable bike going, I for one think a budget comparison should be just that, a sample of bikes for people on a tight budget! When I hear people talk about the how no bike out there holds its value like a Harley, I point out my '85 Honda V65 Magna. The average sale price on this bike is higher than what I payed for it new! Not too bad for a 15 year old bike! Of course that would be because NOBODY makes anything even similar to that style any more, which means I will never sell this thing. And as far as maintainence goes, I couldnt asked for anything better. 45,000 miles and not a single problem! Try that with your H-D or Ducati!
 

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Agree on the blast...

After putting ~2k miles on my EX500, I had a chance to test ride a Blast.

It handled wonderfully, the position was comfortable, the ride was smooth once the engine got up to speed, but it was just a hamster-powered charriot. I hit the rev limiter at least 3 times, including in the twisty sections. If it had the engine from an GS500, or, even better, an EX500, (heck, or save weight with the EX250 engine) it would be a wonderful ride. But with that engine, it was just way too underpowered to be considered a real world motorcycle.
 

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I recently saw base 883s at MSRP on the floor at West Bend Harley. And saw an ad for 883s at MSRP at Suburban Motors in Thiensville, WI. Both stores are within 30 miles of Milwaukee.



This is suprising since used prices for Sportsters have been thru the roof in HD's backyard in southeast Wisconsin. The best prices for used Sportsters seem to be in the New York area.
 

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Re: radials & Yosh

Radial tires of choice are the Michelin Macadam 90X (being phased out and replaced with the 100X). They make all the difference and I recommend to every CB rider not to wait until you wear out the OEM rubber - just spring for the new rubber and it's like a new bike.

The Yosh is loud, but keep it under 3000 rpm (easy to do on a bike with power like the NH) until you are out of your neighborhood - then who cares? It's not as loud as the Kerker or others I've heard on Nighthawks. It all depends on how hard you ride, but it does get a bit noisy at the higher RPMs
 

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Where are you guys from? I can't figure out why the Sportster is always grouped with the "budget bikes". Here in Georgia, out-the door, the Sportster goes for about NINE GRAND, which means it's in the company of the Cyclone, not the Blast, the Super Hawk, not the Nighthawk, the TL1000, not the 650. This can't be blamed on the Motor Company, 'cause they list it at $5500. You can't really even blame the dealers...I mean, if you've got a never ending line of ignorant lemmings willing to pay that, why sell it for less? I am interested in the Suzuki though.Has anyone who weighs up around 225 ridden one? I don't want to race it, but I'm afraid I'm just too big for it. Its the Suzook, or pony-up the extra three grand for the Cyclone, I don't know enough yet to decide.
 

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Re: Been there done that and what you get with a Buell is...

Amen. All we know for sure about this anonymous squid is that he's never ridden a Buell.(If he rides at all). No, it won't keep up with a Duck on a track, but it will in the real world. And let's not get started on what valve adjustments cost on a Desmo.(Buells don't need 'em)
 

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I have a KLR and it will NOT "cruise at 80 ~ 90 mph all day".



Yes, it will run at 80 - 90 if your rev it out and put the engine the upper limit of its capacity, but it will not "cruise" there.



A comfortable cruising pace for the KLR is around 65 mph, maybe 70 tops.



 
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