[BrowningBAR]

Don't you get tired trying to suck your own ***** all the time?

 

[schizuki]

Re: Hoo ray I think

Let me get this straight - you own a Harley, an Italian V-Twin, and an Italian I-4, and you've tested numerous bikes for the Net's biggest motorcycle site, and you somehow think your opinion carries some sort of weight?

 

[The_AirHawk]

A fouled plug is pretty-much "par for the course" on an aircooled engine. At least it's easy to pull and clean/change on the Buell. So far as the seal - things like that happen randomly to EVERY make and model of Moto. Even 2001 ZX-6 Ninjas.

 

[The_AirHawk]

I too have an appreciation for how far Victory has come - they don't make bikes that are my cuppa' tea, but I applaud what they've done for the industry. It's caused Harley Davidson and even the Big Four to realign their own standards - raising the bar for one style of Moto brings others up as well.

 

[55299]

Re: Hoo ray I think

Thanks schizuki, I needed that laugh.

 

[35244]

Thanks to Buz

Thanks for the most excellent (, Smithers!) insight by looking past the gold thingies to some underlying truth.

I second the congrats/kudos/etc to Victory. Good for them!

As for BMW's - yes! - there IS a "Princess and the Pea" thing going on in BMW land. Not much tolerance for the usual small problems that should be expected in a complex product by the target market. For every whining BMW owning puss, I can introduce you to a non-whining BMW owning puss with umpteen squintillion miles on the bike with nothing but routine service....

Your experiences sort of reflect mine in a way - I've had great service out of bikes one should not expect it from and the converse. Then again, I once also owned a Maico which most certainly lived up to it's nickname - even with Barry Higgins only a mile or so away.

Luck 'o the draw sometimes - or not!

 

[33129]

I came very, very close to buying a Buell this summer and it was the poor sales staff and local rider experience with service that kept me away. JD's ratings were consistent with my experience there. While the Buell is a very easy bike to maintain, when something goes way wrong with it, you gotta have some support.



I've bought Hondas, Yamahas and Kawasakis new locally and my experiences parallel JD in every respect except that I have an excellent Yamaha dealer and their sales and service are both stellar.



But what really struck me with all the JD stuff is just how well (across-the-board) Victory did relative to those very well established and reputable companies. Outstanding job there Victory. Come out with something a bit more maintstream (and they won't sell) and I may consider buying one. Your current product mix just doesn't do it for me. I'm on a cruiser now but I'm hoping it's just the result of a brain tumor and will soon pass.

 

[schizuki]

Re: Hoo ray I think

Well, Buz is probably lying about his bikes and experience, like that Neal character with his "Y'know, I rode a ZZR600 and found it a little peaky" nonsense (my B.S. meter went off the scale with that one - a ZX-6R/ZZR600 is not only a perfect sport-tourer with Harley-crushing torque, but it will get out the most stubborn grass stains and make perfect julienne fries.)

 

[Buzglyd]

Re: Hoo ray I think

I suppose living in my mom's basement arguing Star Wars plot lines with my fellow losers would have been helpful as well but the wine was upstairs.

 

[Buzglyd]

Re: Hoo ray I think

Well dipshyt used to say he didn't believe I had a Ducati either. He'd say all H-D riders claimed to have a Ducati.

Dude's got bucketsfull of money from that huge Boeing salary and yet gets in trouble for spending $70 on a windscreen.

 

[longride]

Shift shaft seal leakage was very common on ZX-9's. You don't even want to go over the laundry list of problems with ZX-12s Kawasaki had. I have had at least as many problems with Japanese machinery as Harleys. The Harley stuff was always easy to fix though.

 

[schizuki]

Re: Hoo ray I think

He's just a DSRT'er.*

*Dinette Set Racing Team.

 

[longride]

i wonder when we will get to see that famous 28000 mile ZX6......with him standing next to it. I bet it won't be any time soon. I guess being a liar will stall any efforts to show us.

 

[seruzawa]

Re: Thanks to Buz

Well, on the other hand a bike that's as overpriced as a BMW should be nigh perfect.

 

[acecycleins]

Good for Victory. I worked at a shop that was the first Victory dealer in GA back in '98. The project didn't start all that well for them and they adjusted, made improvements, and most importantly- they listened to the customer. When the Ness family came on 4 years ago it was the smartest move they could have made. Now, the bikes are fun and they (Victory) are just at the begining of R&D cycle for new models. Congrats Victory- well done.

 

[3917]

As a guy who lives in MN I'm happy to see a local company climbing the latter and giving the traditional players a run for the money. I know a Victory is in my future..

 

[TheFox]

No problems with *your* bike? Really?

No problems, except for the part of that sentence that says "My".

--Foxy

 

[schizuki]

I bet he got it cheap. The Blue Book on a 27,500-mile ZX-6R has to be pretty low.

 

[bbtowns]

How many miles, that seems to be the key issue.

 

[35244]

Re: Thanks to Buz

I would quibble, but then I'd be quibbling wouldn't I?

BMW's car QC has fallen off a bit, too as has Mercedes. How the mighty have fallen!

But I still like BMW bikes, can pay the freight and have a great dealer 3 miles from where my fat a$$ sits.

Oh, sorry. I quibbled.

A Felicitious Festivus to you.