[The_AirHawk]

2013 Indian Motorcycles : Videos

Seems they pulled one out of their ass - it is NOT merely another Evo or TwinCam clone....

Not that I'll be in the market for one, but I have to hand it to the "New Indian". (they still seem to be acting as if the brand weren't defunct for essentially the last 60-odd years, and that's kinda weird, though)

 

[Buzglyd]

It's the nicest version yet. They still don't have any bikes.

The 2013 models are the clone bikes.

 

[seruzawa]

They like to pretend that they are the oldest motorcycle company in the world. The irony is that by using their standards Royal Enfield is even older. Royal Enfield invented the word "motorcycle".

 

[The Spaceman]

Some of the marketing in that video reminded me of the marketing from the early Victory ads. It makes me wonder if they'll be drawing additional market share from HD, or simply cannibalizing their own Victory customer base. I don't see the metric cruiser buyer in either space, but I could be wrong.

 

[jmdonald]

Engine

Glad to see they call it an engine not a motor. It looks well done. I wish them luck.

 

[Buzglyd]

The most interesting thing will be pricing. Victorys aren't exactly budget bikes.

One would think these would be priced higher than the Victory line. That puts you in Harley CVO territory.

 

[jmdonald]

Premium

They will ask a premium. You can bet on it.

 

[sarnali2]

Ask a premium, discount the hell out of them then file bankrupcy and bail with the investors and suckers money....

Pretty much par for the course with the new iterations of "Indian" vs1,2,3,4,ad nauseam

 

[The_AirHawk]

Ask a premium, discount the hell out of them then file bankrupcy and bail with the investors and suckers money....

Pretty much par for the course with the new iterations of "Indian" vs1,2,3,4,ad nauseam

Naysayers Gonna Naysay....

 

[seruzawa]

Naysayers Gonna Naysay....

On the other hand if they can keep the price point good enough, maybe they will take sales from HD. That would be excellent. I'm still disgusted with the way HD treated Eric Buell and his employees.

 

[The Spaceman]

Glad to see they call it an engine not a motor. It looks well done. I wish them luck.

That mis-use of motor vs. engine has always annoyed me too. "The Motor Company?" Wrong.

I get the same fingernails on chalkboard feeling when someone says they "drove" their motorcycle.

 

[The Spaceman]

Ask a premium, discount the hell out of them then file bankrupcy and bail with the investors and suckers money....

Pretty much par for the course with the new iterations of "Indian" vs1,2,3,4,ad nauseam

I dunno, Polaris hasn't missed a step yet. Even that gawdawful "Vision" paid off by providing a platform for several other less-stupid looking touring bikes that have sold well.

 

[Buzglyd]

That mis-use of motor vs. engine has always annoyed me too. "The Motor Company?" Wrong.

I get the same fingernails on chalkboard feeling when someone says they "drove" their motorcycle.

So when are you picking up your new Honda Enginecycle?

 

[Buzglyd]

Glad to see they call it an engine not a motor. It looks well done. I wish them luck.

If Darrell Waltrip screams, "The 48 is all ate up with engine!" It just doesn't sound the same.

 

[The Spaceman]

So when are you picking up your new Honda Enginecycle?

This afternoon around three if I get my chores done. Perfect timing too, we have 70 degrees and sunny skies. Perfect for breaking on an air cooled motor. I mean engine. I mean motorbike. I mean MoFocycle.

 

[jmdonald]

It's all kind of goofy. Frame of reference colloquialism.

If Darrell Waltrip screams, "The 48 is all ate up with engine!" It just doesn't sound the same.

You are right. It does sound funny. While colloquially interchanged, there is a difference between a motor and an engine. In common usage, an engine burns or otherwise consumes fuel, and is differentiated from an electric motor that derives power without changing the composition of matter. Another way of looking at it is that a motor receives power from an external source, and then converts it into mechanical energy, while an engine creates power from pressure (derived directly from the explosive force of combustion or other chemical reaction, or secondarily from the action of some such force on other substances such as air, water, or steam). When an engine is being observed as an independent entity it is then proper to refer to it as an engine. As in not part of the encompassing machine. I would like to take credit for all data referenced here but I freely admit to copying some of it.

 

[Buzglyd]

You are right. It does sound funny. While colloquially interchanged, there is a difference between a motor and an engine. In common usage, an engine burns or otherwise consumes fuel, and is differentiated from an electric motor that derives power without changing the composition of matter. Another way of looking at it is that a motor receives power from an external source, and then converts it into mechanical energy, while an engine creates power from pressure (derived directly from the explosive force of combustion or other chemical reaction, or secondarily from the action of some such force on other substances such as air, water, or steam). When an engine is being observed as an independent entity it is then proper to refer to it as an engine. As in not part of the encompassing machine. I would like to take credit for all data referenced here but I freely admit to copying some of it.

Perhaps motor is short for motorized.

Either way, my BMW is all ate up with motor!

 

[The Spaceman]

Perhaps motor is short for motorized.

Either way, my BMW is all ate up with motor!

No, your nice motor is all ate up with BMW.

Sure wish they'd make a "sport" version of that 6. I couldn't afford it, but I'd love to see it released into the wild.

 

[The Spaceman]

You are right. It does sound funny. While colloquially interchanged, there is a difference between a motor and an engine. In common usage, an engine burns or otherwise consumes fuel, and is differentiated from an electric motor that derives power without changing the composition of matter.

I sorta understood the difference, but this is a very good explanation. Thanks.

 

[Buzglyd]

No, your nice motor is all ate up with BMW.

Sure wish they'd make a "sport" version of that 6. I couldn't afford it, but I'd love to see it released into the wild.

I'd love to as well but I don't think you every will. It would take a mighty feat of engineering to hide all the plumbing to make it acceptable as a naked bike.

And then naked bikes don't sell all that well.

The sound is intoxicating. There is nothing like it.