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Hi all,

Im always reading stuff on the boards, thought I would ask a question for a change. I'm hoping to get input from some unbiased riders. Have been riding for 2 yrs (weekends mostly) and find that my Suzuki gs500F is no longer doing it for me. Im an extremely mature and (imo)safe driver, not into excessive speed or taking chances. At 42 I am aware of the mortality of man. So I find myself needing a new bike. I do prefer sports bikes over all other styles, however, at 42, too uncomfortable. I had my choices narowed down to Triumph Street Triple and BMW F800ST. I know, different, but similar in upright position and I liked the looks. Bikes are an art form, they gotta look great or whats the point:). Loved the Triple (LOVED), felt great, 800ST was too vanilla for me, obviously a well designed bike, but it didnt do it for me in the WOW department. Just as I was about to decide on the Triple, the BMW guy called me about a K1300R. WOW! What a killer bike!!! Looks, power, safety, has it all. I feel that the power may be beyond my skill level, only because I have always subscribed to the start small and work way up. The dealership (who wants to sell bikes obviously) think that this bike would be fine with 2 yrs experience and someone who can not go crazy with the power. It seems to have so many safety features (ABS, traction control, bound brakes, etc) that perhaps it is as safe as me hoping on a 1000cc bike with none of that. Plus its a roadster vs sportbike, which maybe tones down the twitchiness.

Sorry this is so long, I guess the question really is, is that bike suitable or is the dealer just trying to sell it? It "fits" well, but I dont want to test drive it until I get some feedback from a few places.

I really appreciate any thoughts,

Victor
 

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It's a heavier bike than the other three you mention.

If you get it, make sure to practice your low speed maneuvers (in a parking lot); and emergency swerving/braking, etc.

Not all dealers let you take bikes out for a test ride, so if you can, then you definitely should. Don't compare it to a 1000cc sportbike. And don't consider it a 'safe' bike.

Make sure you check NADA pricing, eBay, and craigslist, before making the dealer an offer.
 

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I just sold a K1200GT which is more or less the same bike power wise. I think you should be OK, there's definitely enough to get you in trouble however it's a very smooth and linear powerband so with a reasonable amount of caution you should be fine..Ditto on the weight, the GT was a real porker with a lot of weight seemingly up high, also the fairly narrow steering arc made low speed maneuvering a chore, that said it was a good handling bike once you got used to the the weight and power characteristics.

The other issue is expense. These are complex bikes and need to be properly maintained, if you're in anyway unsure of what you are doing you'll want to have them serviced at the dealership. The costs are not out of line with any other high end bike but more than your Suzuki. Just something to be aware of.

I'd say go for it myself, if that's the one that floats your boat then nothing else will do.
 

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Triumph Tiger 800 ('street' or XC).

Unless the K-bike is a steal...
I heard those Triumph's leak oil and have "interesting electrics"?.......

Just kidding, those days are long gone. The Tiger or any modern Triumph would be an excellent choice and a lot cheaper than a K bike in purchase and maintenance.
 

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If you have the dough, go for the BMW.

It's not a crotch rocket. It's a very fast, stable bike and you sound like you're old enough and mature enough to handle it.

It only goes as fast as you want it to.
 

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Hmm, well no one has blasted me yet for even mentioning the idea, thats good:) I know 2 years ago when asking about a first bike, if you mentioned anything larger than 500 cc you got chastised quickly. Thought that might happen on 2nd bike choice over 800. Thanks for the comments, all appreciated.

The MSRP of the K is way up there, especially compared to the Street Triple, its like $24000(most options) vs $16000 (tricked out). The crazy thing is financing brings the numbers closer. The BMW has 3.95% and basically no admin fees, the Triumph is 8.95% and about $900 in admin fees. Over the course of 60 months that adds about $4000 to the Triumph over the BMW, so really we are talking about $24000 vs $20000, definitley closes the gap. You only get one go around on this planet so the price difference would be worth stretching for if I preferred the BMW. I definitely like the looks better, its just so unique. I like the head turn factor, gotta admit.
Being from UK, I feel a draw to the Triple as well, and that exhaust sound is just mesmerizing:)

Bottom line is, if enough experienced riders think the K1300r is manageable with an intelligent, mature rider, then I may just pay the $50 extra per month and have perma-grin for 5-10 yrs:)

Vic
 

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It's not a sport bike.

Sport bikes are peaky. They don't make much torque until they get up in the higher revs, then the power suddenly comes on. You see them getting away from inexperienced riders who open up the throttle at 3k rpm (where the bike's making 20 ft-lbs of torque) and keeping it open till 9k(where it's making 120 ft-lbs of torque) and the bike pops a wheelie.

You're not a 18yo whose first bike is going to be the GSXR 1000 his daddy bought him. You know better.

Just take it easy and gradually get used to the extra power and weight and you'll be fine. Take the experienced riders course on it to work on your slow speed drills and to instill some confidence.

The key is to respect the power of the bike while having confidence in yourself that you can master it. Like Buz said, it only goes as fast as you want it to.
 

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It's not a sport bike.

Sport bikes are peaky. They don't make much torque until they get up in the higher revs, then the power suddenly comes on. You see them getting away from inexperienced riders who open up the throttle at 3k rpm (where the bike's making 20 ft-lbs of torque) and keeping it open till 9k(where it's making 120 ft-lbs of torque) and the bike pops a wheelie.

You're not a 18yo whose first bike is going to be the GSXR 1000 his daddy bought him. You know better.

Just take it easy and gradually get used to the extra power and weight and you'll be fine. Take the experienced riders course on it to work on your slow speed drills and to instill some confidence.

The key is to respect the power of the bike while having confidence in yourself that you can master it. Like Buz said, it only goes as fast as you want it to.
Thanks Steve, thats helpful to know how it relates to a high powered sports bike. The K1300r has mad power but in a more linear way, from what Ive read. It is the rider that ultimately determines the speed, I am feeling better that Im not getting in over my head. The worst thing would be to buy it and 1 week later regret it.
 

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Go ride a SPEED Triple. Or a 1050 Tiger.

You could get one of those AND a Bonneville for the cost of that K bike.

8.95% !? Wow! Look at the current offers:

FREEDOM ROAD FINANCING.
Now through August 31, 2011, get great financing on some of our most popular new 2011 and prior year models.*

Bonneville/Classics Family as low as $99 per month* - 15% Down, 84 Months, 6.99% APR - PLUS, Triumph makes 6 months of winter payments for you up to $99/month.

America and Speedmaster as low as $125 per month* - 10% Down, 72 Months, 6.99% APR - PLUS, Triumph makes up to 6 months of winter payments for you up to $125/month.

Thunderbird as low as $199 per month* - 10% Down, 72 Months, 6.99% APR

Rocket III Roadster as low as $215 per month* - 10% Down, 72 Months, 6.99% APR

Speed Triple as low as $159 per month* - 10% Down, 84 Months, 7.99% APR - PLUS, Triumph makes up to 6 months of winter payments for you up to $159/month.

Daytona 675 as low as $149 per month* - 10% Down, 84 Months, 7.99% APR

Street Triple as low as $121 per month* - 10% Down, 84 Months, 7.99% APR

Sprint GT $0 down plus $250 in Genuine Triumph Accessories or Apparel* - Triumph makes your first 6 payments up to $190/month

Tiger 1050 as low as $185 per month* - 10% Down, 72 Months, 6.99% APR - PLUS, Triumph makes up to 6 months of winter payments for you up to $185/month.

And that's from the Company. I'd guess you could finance a bike much cheaper elsewhere.
 

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Go ride a SPEED Triple. Or a 1050 Tiger.

You could get one of those AND a Bonneville for the cost of that K bike.

8.95% !? Wow! Look at the current offers:
Thanks Pushrod! I dont think Triumph does financing in Canada, at least thats what the Triumph dealer said, Im going to look into it. And then all the banks seem to want 7.95 - 9.95% for a motorcycle loan, no wonder the Canadian banks make so much!
 

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@ Pushrod. I tried the Speed Triple and really enjoyed it! I definitely preferred the Street however, alot lighter in the twisties, even though a lot less power, it seemed to have more "pull". I am betting that the K1300r feels more like the 1050cc Speed Triple, heavier. I suppose I should take it out today and find out:)
Oh, I hate big decisions!!
 
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