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kpaul crack pot braking theories.
Great Topic.
Yes I find that I can use the rear in a down hill curve (my favorite corkscrew) to settle the bike. MSF guys are right, you should use both brakes in an emergency stop. I am sure we are going to hear a lot old wives' tales from the GPTB now. I would love to have Matt Mladin comment on this topic. I saw an interview where he said the whole lean off the bike thing was not needed as much as in the old Kenny Robert days when the bikes and tires were crap. After that I started watching him after that. I noticed that him and Jamie Hacking didn't hang off as much as the backmarkers. It allowed them to get the back upright faster and get the gas back on...In addition the whole trailbraking front brake thing may be more of style rather than necessity. Troy Corser doesn't use it..He brakes then turns.. Sometimes I think motorcyclist are the most illogical folks in way. Sometimes I even use the back brake when I down shift and blip the throttle. Rather than to muck with the front brake.
I think I need to go to Freddy's or Keith Code school though ... Since I have developed my own style...
Great Topic.
Yes I find that I can use the rear in a down hill curve (my favorite corkscrew) to settle the bike. MSF guys are right, you should use both brakes in an emergency stop. I am sure we are going to hear a lot old wives' tales from the GPTB now. I would love to have Matt Mladin comment on this topic. I saw an interview where he said the whole lean off the bike thing was not needed as much as in the old Kenny Robert days when the bikes and tires were crap. After that I started watching him after that. I noticed that him and Jamie Hacking didn't hang off as much as the backmarkers. It allowed them to get the back upright faster and get the gas back on...In addition the whole trailbraking front brake thing may be more of style rather than necessity. Troy Corser doesn't use it..He brakes then turns.. Sometimes I think motorcyclist are the most illogical folks in way. Sometimes I even use the back brake when I down shift and blip the throttle. Rather than to muck with the front brake.
I think I need to go to Freddy's or Keith Code school though ... Since I have developed my own style...
Re: Wrong
OK good point but weight by itself has nothing to do if I should use the back brake or not It's the distribution of weight of the bike. Also the heaver the bike the more stopping power is needed and in general heaver bikes and cars stop at longer distances than lighter bikes and cars. Please practice using both brakes. MSF says it's the fastest way to stop
OK good point but weight by itself has nothing to do if I should use the back brake or not It's the distribution of weight of the bike. Also the heaver the bike the more stopping power is needed and in general heaver bikes and cars stop at longer distances than lighter bikes and cars. Please practice using both brakes. MSF says it's the fastest way to stop
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I give you are right (kpaul rolls eyes)...Go do an experiment in a parking lot. Try both techniques..
I give you are right (kpaul rolls eyes)...Go do an experiment in a parking lot. Try both techniques..
Re: kpaul crack pot braking theories.
Thanks Great Response. Makes sense. Like I said I probably need to go to a track school because I am developing some bad habits. Thanks again
Thanks Great Response. Makes sense. Like I said I probably need to go to a track school because I am developing some bad habits. Thanks again
Re: Wrong
LOL good one. Yep I thought I had a live one till kchicken told me to reread the first sentence. Oh will I think I all the fish have been fished out of the barrel.
LOL good one. Yep I thought I had a live one till kchicken told me to reread the first sentence. Oh will I think I all the fish have been fished out of the barrel.
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These are the wives' tales I was talking about.. Thanks for not letting me down
These are the wives' tales I was talking about.. Thanks for not letting me down
Re: kpaul crack pot braking theories.
Yep you win kfred.
Yep you win kfred.
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I tried to swerve and caught it near the end with ny front tire while leaned over did a low side. As Agent 86 would say "Missed it by that much" .
I tried to swerve and caught it near the end with ny front tire while leaned over did a low side. As Agent 86 would say "Missed it by that much" .
Wrong too
Hmm lets say 80% of your braking is done by the front brake on a sportbike. That means if you follow cherrypicker's rule you would only be using 80% of your brakes in an emergency stop. Doesn't sound too smart to me..
Hmm lets say 80% of your braking is done by the front brake on a sportbike. That means if you follow cherrypicker's rule you would only be using 80% of your brakes in an emergency stop. Doesn't sound too smart to me..
Re: Wrong too
Irrelevant... See discussion on linked braking systems.
Irrelevant... See discussion on linked braking systems.
Best Post here
Well said. Very logical and you explain things clearly.
Well said. Very logical and you explain things clearly.
Wonder what Pete thinks?
He just came back from that class. Would love to hear what he thinks. I am sure Sean will just agree with the GPTB so he can get his beer bought for him.
He just came back from that class. Would love to hear what he thinks. I am sure Sean will just agree with the GPTB so he can get his beer bought for him.
LOL Good one
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Yep maybe we could spin this thread into a gun control thing.. Personally I think handguns should be illegal. Can't hunt with it.. All it does is kill people. Bet if hand guns and assault weapons were illegal that thing at VA Tech would have never happened.. Do the Utah troopers still have beehive decals on the side of their cars? That's what I remember we got arrested on I-70 for being in a car doing 140mph...
Yep maybe we could spin this thread into a gun control thing.. Personally I think handguns should be illegal. Can't hunt with it.. All it does is kill people. Bet if hand guns and assault weapons were illegal that thing at VA Tech would have never happened.. Do the Utah troopers still have beehive decals on the side of their cars? That's what I remember we got arrested on I-70 for being in a car doing 140mph...
Braking 101.
Sounds like you need to practice your braking in a parking lot. You have an irrational fear of locking up the rear. If rear locks up just stay on the brake.. Use to do it with my bmx bike as a kid all the time. If you need to swerve it's best to swerve then brake. I think the the ratio is more like 80/20 on your longish Busa.. Skip that advice just layer down..
Sounds like you need to practice your braking in a parking lot. You have an irrational fear of locking up the rear. If rear locks up just stay on the brake.. Use to do it with my bmx bike as a kid all the time. If you need to swerve it's best to swerve then brake. I think the the ratio is more like 80/20 on your longish Busa.. Skip that advice just layer down..
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hand guns only..
hand guns only..
Re: Farewell MO!
Hey come back! Wait! Ah never mind.. Too bad i liked kdog ..
Hey come back! Wait! Ah never mind.. Too bad i liked kdog ..
kwrong
God you are wrong in so many ways.
God you are wrong in so many ways.
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