$200 plus shipping from Oz so I can get 4 hours of heat? What do I do for the second half of the day? I think I'll stick with my Widder setup. The Widder vest w/ electronic (PWM) controller is the same cost. I added the arm chaps, less fringe, for another $80. Now I'm good to ride the Texas plains in January.
An advantage might exist for this product if you switch bike frequently, but I just added extra plugs to each of my bikes for $12 or so.
I like the idea of using a vest for other activities like skiing (turn it on when you ride up the lift and turn it off when you are working up a sweat going down the double diamonds), hunting, boating, etc. No wires to route through your clothing or suit.
It gets a little colder here in Colorado. 4 hours with a battery you could hold in your hand easily makes me shiver a bit thinking about it. I won't take the time to read how many watts, especially since I like heated gloves as well.
And an extra fused outlet for the next bike is cheap.
For those who think that 45F is frigid - I'd suspect that anyone living in Oz falls into that category - or for a clammy morning in Texas it might work. Not for the rest of us..
My Widder is getting kind of old - I'm thinking about a Gerbling. Though to give them credit, Widder replaced my heated gloves when one of them opened up, no charge.
Well, since this is turning into one of the rare (GASP!) "On Topic" threads , - what do all of you year 'round riders wear in the cold?
"Wet" is another topic, for another time.
I've got for my own personal defense:
>Three different weights of long underwear - varies depending on ambient temperature.
>An old Eclipse 'lectric vest, unknown wattage, unknown age (got it 2nd-hand). Worn over work clothes
This vest uses the SAE-type connectors. It came with a coiled cord and a crappy inline "lamp-cord" style switch. My major problem with the vest has been the cord flexibility - I move around so much, the copper wires in the switch terminals keep breaking. Any suggestions for an inexpensive (but not cheap!) replacement? I mean, fer crissakes - it's just a Four-Asterisk'n switch - why in the Four-Asterisk does everybodies switches cost $150 and up?
>Joe Rocket Ballistic jacket - gimme from a friend who didn't like it.
I didn't think I would either, but it fits me surprisingly well. It feels "secure", keeps wind out, and is advertised as "waterproof". I have to say; it is - for at least a moderate rain, ~1hr or so (haven't "tested" longer). So far, it's reasonably warm down to about ~40deg F with the liner, and without the 'lectrics - haven't tested it colder yet.
>MotoGP Jacket armoured jacket (can't 'member the model - it's the OD Green one with the retro-reflectives)
Got a deal on it for No-name-brand snowmobile/ski gloves - work passably well, down to ~25deg F.
>"****ies" brand insulated coveralls. I've been considering getting a set of insulated "bib overalls" to replace these - less bulk under the armoured jackets. And, with my 'lectric vest, somewhat redundant.
As my overcoat, I used to use an old Navy-issued Arctic jacket - it was my Dad's when he was sent on an Icebreaker in the '60s in an attempt to circumnavigate North America. Since he's gone now, I decided to retire it to occasional non-moto duty (some of you old-timer Navy guys might recognize it - the one with the "Life Preserver" foam liner). Replacing this was actually why I bought the MotoGP jacket.
>Dual-temp grip heaters
I haven't actually installed these yet, several reasons. One pretty good reason - WHY doesn't anybody carry some frakkin' stock-style handgrips? I mean, you can find frakkin' fuschia pink ones in every dealership in the nation - but NOTHING that looks like, fits like, or works as well as the stock grips (for a reasonable price! $35 for a set of stock grips is NOT reasonable!)
The closest I've come is these silicone Pro-grips. Grippy, squishy, fairly easy to install. But they don't look quite like the Yamaha stockers.
I've also been considering a set of "bark busters", but nobody seems interested in making a set for my commuter (FZ6). I've looked into adapting a set of the ones Suzuki uses on the WeeStrom/VeeThurmond twins, but the local dealer I tried to discuss it with hires Idiots. I believe they still think that I'm trying to trade my FZ6 for a DL650. I never DID even get a price on the parts.............
I have poor circulation in my hands, and a mild case of tendonitis - keeping them warm goes a LONG way toward maintaining feeling in my hands during the ~50-min/35mile commute. (one way - you gotta slow down for those small towns, or Deputy Fife will add your revenues to his own)
Having encountered ice once many years ago I now only ride when it's above freezing. My JR Ballisitic with a light jacket and thick sweater underneath works well. First Gear lined pants. Lined leather boots. And snowmobile gloves. All this works well for the 40 mile (each way) commute along I-15. I also run a plexifairing on my G which does a good job of keeping the wind off.
So you are microwaving your body (oh ok according to them it only goes 1 inch into your body) with something that they can only provide references to a 1981 and 1989 study to prove its safe.
And this vest that nukes your body becomes unstable for use after 1 year?
i think they are correct with (5), in asking you to check in with a doctor (read as psychiatrist).
I'd feel safer running exposed copper around my body and letting the electric shock stimulate my muscles and indirectly warm me, the same way shivering works. But this way i can electrocute.. i mean warm... myself for years on end, not just 12 months. and i saved myself a psychiatirst visit.