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Re: Yamaha shuts down FZ1 sites
Yeah, I imagine they might be a little mad about someone illegally distributing their products.
Yeah, I imagine they might be a little mad about someone illegally distributing their products.
Re: Thanks for the Additional Information
"If you disagree, think about this for a minute: If you and I both own FZ-1s, and you lost your user manual, should it be illegal for me to tell you how many quarts of oil it takes? Or how many miles between valve adjustments? Should that information really be protected so vigorously that you and I can't discuss it? Is that what we all want?"
That isn't the issue. The issue is the form that that information is presented in (the service manual,which is copyrighted), not the information itself.
"If you disagree, think about this for a minute: If you and I both own FZ-1s, and you lost your user manual, should it be illegal for me to tell you how many quarts of oil it takes? Or how many miles between valve adjustments? Should that information really be protected so vigorously that you and I can't discuss it? Is that what we all want?"
That isn't the issue. The issue is the form that that information is presented in (the service manual,which is copyrighted), not the information itself.
Re: Facts seem to be somewhat in dispute
"If, in fact, the posted information was merely the exchange of information among a group of enthusiasts, Yamaha was probably heavy-handed and misguided in their approach, even if their legal grounds are sound. If Yamaha are correct and someone was using the site to sell pirate copies of the manuals, they are on stronger footing, but maybe still ill-advised. "
Whether or not they were charging money for it is irrelevant. The simple act of distributing it without Yamaha's permission violated copyright law.
"If, in fact, the posted information was merely the exchange of information among a group of enthusiasts, Yamaha was probably heavy-handed and misguided in their approach, even if their legal grounds are sound. If Yamaha are correct and someone was using the site to sell pirate copies of the manuals, they are on stronger footing, but maybe still ill-advised. "
Whether or not they were charging money for it is irrelevant. The simple act of distributing it without Yamaha's permission violated copyright law.
Re: Yamaha Shuts Down, Then Licenses To, FZ-1 Site
"Why can't we get TDM 900"
We had our chance with this bike already back in 1992- none of the morons over here bought one.
"Fazer 600,"
Been there, done that with the Seca 2. No one bought one (except me).
"BullDog" "MT-01"
Almost zero demand. Note the total lack of success Buell has had with this kind of bike.
"T-Max"
This is one I would like to see, but I'm not sure that there really is that big of a market over here for $7000 scooters.
"Why can't we get TDM 900"
We had our chance with this bike already back in 1992- none of the morons over here bought one.
"Fazer 600,"
Been there, done that with the Seca 2. No one bought one (except me).
"BullDog" "MT-01"
Almost zero demand. Note the total lack of success Buell has had with this kind of bike.
"T-Max"
This is one I would like to see, but I'm not sure that there really is that big of a market over here for $7000 scooters.
Re: Yamaha Shuts Down, Then Licenses To, FZ-1 Site
Yes, the Seca 2 really was like the Fazer when it appeared in 1992. It had a smooth, decently powerful engine compared to 600's at the time, (keep in mind that this was 11 years ago), it had the relaxed ergos of the Fazer, it was very cheap, it had good brakes (the same as the top dog Yamaha 600 at the time, the FZR600, except with a single disc), and they even had a specific roadrace series for it with excellent contingency. I will admit that it is a different bike now because it has been repositioned by Yamaha, but comparing the concept of the Fazer today with the concept of the Seca when it was introduced in 1992, it is the same.
Yes, the Seca 2 really was like the Fazer when it appeared in 1992. It had a smooth, decently powerful engine compared to 600's at the time, (keep in mind that this was 11 years ago), it had the relaxed ergos of the Fazer, it was very cheap, it had good brakes (the same as the top dog Yamaha 600 at the time, the FZR600, except with a single disc), and they even had a specific roadrace series for it with excellent contingency. I will admit that it is a different bike now because it has been repositioned by Yamaha, but comparing the concept of the Fazer today with the concept of the Seca when it was introduced in 1992, it is the same.
BTW, what is a "FUED"?
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