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Yamaha Shows V-Max Concept to ''Gauge Response''

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Didn't this come out 2-3 months ago? I feel shame for being the first to post on news this old.
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"As they age they won't be buying GPTB cruisers i.e Harley FXs softails, Sporsters and the like."

And just how the f*** do you know that? Seriously, how?

I used to think Harleys were the stupidest things on two wheels. Now I think a Sportster would make a nice toddlin'-around bike. I doubt I'm unique.

Your arrogant certitude is breathtaking. It's a sign of a small, closed mind.
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I always though it stood for @sshole. It's what he is, no matter what letter you choose.
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I'm 10 to 15 years younger than Squid and I'd buy one of the current Sportsters, also. I'd buy a few Harley bikes.

But, most likely as you would also, I like a very wide variety of bikes. From sportbikes to cruisers and everything in-between.

Squid, who seems to really want to think he is truly open-minded...well, seems to be wound a little tight.

And that's what makes him a truly funny.
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I'm probably 10 to 15 years older than our hero and about the only Harley I'd buy would be a Road Glide. I like the bikes and all just not my style, I enjoyed the FXD I had last winter for the time I had it but after a while the minus's outweighed the plus's and I traded it on my T 100.

Realistically If I had the ching for a Road Glide I'd probably get a K1200 GT instead
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I enjoy how funky the Beemers are. I like a few of them, including the weird little motards/dual-purpose bikes they just introduced.

Sure, some might find them ugly. But I bet they would be a blast to ride.
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I don't know.

It's kind of like calling a dog that always sh!ts on the bed an @sshole.

When it comes right down to it, it's just a dumb animal that you can make it do a few stupid tricks (like admit it has "b!tch t!ts").

The "M" probably stands for a few other things like:

Miopic

Mental Midget

Meathead

...though, with a dog you can always have it put to sleep.
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I'm actually kind of the opposite - I lusted for a Harley when I was in my pre and early teens; riding around on a Honda CL100, I wanted to be an "Outlaw Biker", join a M/C -- the whole works. As I got older, I realized I couldn't afford a new Harley, didn't have the patience to rebuild an expensive basket of junk parts, and had started getting into Musclecars (specifically old Mopars).

So, I left Motorcycling for about 6 or 7 years.

Getting back into Riding again at ~22; I "re-entered" with the purchase of another of my Moto-Lusts: an '89 Honda HawkGT. The First (and I still have it) of a line of oddball Motorcycles I would own and ride.

From there, it's all been downhill; I fell in with a Moto-crowd of eclectic tastes and varied interests, some of whom actually owned Harleys, and got to ride some of the OTHER Moto-Lusts of my youth -- and was totally underwhelmed. Compared to even my lowly Hawk -- to me; most Cruisers with twice its displacement came up wanting.

Compared to many of the other, far more capable bikes I have sampled........ Well, there IS no comparison.

I felt Cruisers were overweight, underpowered (but the vast majority of them SOUND mean and powerful, don't they?), have poor ground clearance, and too much "Blizzing" for my taste.

Plus, it seemed every Doctor, Lawyer, Banker, or company President in the whole feckin' US of A had decided to "live out" my childhood fantasy of bein' "Billy-Badass Bika' " -- which I outgrew, IN my childhood. -- I had no wish to become yet another poseur in a "Sea of Individuals". As one of those eclectic friends of mine is fond of saying; "EVERY day can be Halloween, when you own a Harley!" And it's only gotten "worse".

Now, at the lower-edge of Harley's demographic, I have almost Zero interest in one - OR, their Japanese competition.

I've matured somewhat -- I can see where Cruisers might light someone's fire -- but they're not for me.

The Buell sparks my interest a bit; so much so that I've come THIS >< close to plunking-down money on an Ulysses (the Adv-Touring thing has sort of taken hold on me lately). I love the sound of a V-Twin, especially one that can rev-up a bit (single-crankpin-narrow-vee Cruisers need not apply here!), but an inline-four in full-song also raises the hair on the back of my neck.

Well, it seems I've started ramble-writing The Great American Novel here, so I'll wrap it up.

EVERYONE is different, and they all change throughout life. You can't lump some person into a "Boomer" or "Gen X" or "Gen Y" category, and say "They will only buy hunched-over futbol-fcuking monkeybikes", or "This Generation only likes riding vibrating Gynocological-Exam tables", or "Those ADV-Riders are Nuckin' Futs!".

It just doesn't stick. By and large, motorcycling seems to have a LOT of poseurs (I may even be one of them), and THEY seem to be largely divided amongst Racer-boys and Psuedo-Outlaws. And, you never see either in any kind of inclement (or even threatened!) weather. But the REAL Motorcyclists are gonna ride; and THEIR choice of mount is going to vary - even throughout their stable.

Those who don't give a Shiznit on what the World thinks is the best bike - they just pick something that talks to THEM, and ride the wheels off it - two-year-old bikes with 45,000+ miles is the norm.

I'm ending it now, sorry to subject you all to this sill rant.........
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I think Beemers are the ugliest, dumbest, most ridiculous motorcycles out there. And when the weather is total crap, you'll see Beemer riders out there in it. How can you not respect that?

The reason that niches I have zero interest in exist is because they fill a desire for someone else. People who don't understand that are the saddest kind of solipsists.
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They had a few display stands at the IMS in Seattle with cut-aways of the front end and suspension bits, plus a good friend of mine is a BMW salesman. I enjoy going to the shop and hanging out drinking free coffee and chit chatting.

I think they're pretty cool bikes though I was disapointed with the surging and power assisted brakes on my R1150 RT. Now I've got my eye set on a new Bandit however a reasonably priced used K1200 GT might change my mind.
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I nearly bough a bandit 1200 back in '02.

Sales rep was a bit of a turd, so I walked away.

The new one has much cleaner lines. I'm not a huge power freak, so whatever changes they made to it engine-wise is fine by me.

From what I read you could really run the hell out of the old Bandits. Hope the new ones get the same rep.
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The '01 Bandit I had was one of the funnest bikes I've owned. The only reason I traded it was because I wanted a more sport touring type and I didn't like the look of the Givi's on a Bandit. One of the things I liked about my Trophy was the handling and power were similar to the Bandits.

For my type of riding they're almost perfect and a real bargain to boot, I'll either get an '07 or a low mile unmolested used one.
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I really wanted a Trophy. I liked the price, the clean look and it was a nice simple layout for a touring bike (user wise, maintenance and engine upkeep I have no knowledge on). I just didn't have the money when they were available.

I wish they would bring it back.

I liked that they also offered a 900 version.
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EVERYONE is different, and they all change throughout life. You can't lump some person into a "Boomer" or "Gen X" or "Gen Y" category, and say "They will only buy....

Correction. If you have an extremely limited intellect you must deal in such broad stereotypes or you'll never get through the day. This is how idiots come up with crazy ideas like "600 sportbikes are the greatest value in motorcycling" when in fact the 600s are quickly obsolescent, depreciate ruinously and are too narrowly focused for real life practical use. Certain people can only "think" in the most simplistic terms possible. Sadly they are also incapable of telling truth from lie and usually spend their lives defending their obviously bizarre opinions to the death.
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Ah, like Democrats.................
Gouging-out your eyes then dousing the empty, oozing sockets with acid 'cuz you gazed into The Britney?

(not exactly worksafe - you've been warned)
>I'd rather have 50-year-old retro aesthetic

>that's authentically moto-referential



There is lots of that already. I don´t want to question your taste but not everybody wants to ride like granpa.



- cruiz-euro
Crazy ideas? Speak for yourself Famous seruzawa quotes

"crazy ideas like"

How about your crazy ideas like this.


[*]Cruisers have better brakes than sportbikes

[*]Speed doesnt' kill i.e. velocity is not important in crashes

[*]The Iraq war was a good thing

[*]There are WMDs in Iraq

[*]Deficits don't matter

[*]Gas prices will go low and stay low



I could go on an on.. Should I?
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When I had the cops at my house during my car theft investigation, the young cop (late 20s) immediately started asking me questions about my Geezer Glide (he currently rides a Low Rider). My Ducati was sitting next to it and he totally ignored it and didn't ask any questions about the Duc.

A few days later I went out for a beer with some of my softball mates. One of our players (who is 27) talked to me non-stop about how badly he wants a Harley and was even wearing H-D boots.

I don't know what doofus stereotype they fit but one was white, one Mexican, and they were both in their late 20s.
Nuthin' wrong with a Giger bike if done right, but this isn't it. In fact, the bodywork, even for a concept bike. looks like a accident and the molding shop. It's butt ugly -- especially the tail section. I think Yamaha needs to hire some new conceptual designers, 'cuz this doesn't say muscle bike, but instead says showroom dust collector.
Re: Crazy ideas? Speak for yourself Famous seruzawa quotes

"Speed doesnt' kill i.e. velocity is not important in crashes"

"A 1997 Federal Highway Administration study on 100 different locations where speed limits had been changed reported that when limits were reduced, the number of accidents increased, whereas when limits were raised, the volume of crashes went down."

Some food for thought from the December issue of Cycle World.
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