Not the type of bike I would personally consider owning; too much of a porker for my tastes. But that dyno chart -- 90 foot-pounds of torque at 1800 rpm!!! Can that be for real? That's enough to make most any power hungry madman drool.
The Valkyrie is in a catagory unto itself. All the bikes mentioned are twins. The only thing the Valk has in common with these bikes is the two wheels. Believe me, it doesn't belong in this group.
It's power is huge as is the rest of the bike. The only thing that keeps it on the road in fast turns is it's power. The front end is heavy and tends to fall into turns. It also shakes pretty bad when taking advantage of it's amazing lean-angle but the power is there to settle things down.
You are correct that the Valkyrie is a power bike but these comparos need to be limited to bikes that are in direct compatition with each other. They really are that different from Honda's Valkyrie.
Also, I'm not sure about the twins but the Valk will lay down rubber in first & second and if it hooks up it'll push that huge front end into the air in first and pop it up in second as well.
Had to sell my Valk as it brought out in me the natural born hulligan that I am. Not my best feature. :->~
This thing looks a lot better in person than it does in pictures. The huge can looks better for some reason.
The power figures are in impressive. I find it kind of funny that Yamaha built its power cruiser with an AC twin while Harley went with the DOHC LC twin. However, a couple of mags have reported that Harley may come out with its own monster size air cooled version of the TC 88.
I would love to take this thing out for a spin. Too bad my local dealership doesn't offer test rides.
Rider says the Warrior wieghs about 650lbs wet, the Mean Streak won the shootout by overall competence, not performance, the only reason that the Valkyrie could be left out is that it isn't a V motor. I agree that if non twins were allowed the Valkyrie should have been included.
If you calculate the power to wieght ratio of the Warrior, 650lbs/76 horsepower and the VTX, 750lbs/88 horsepower, the ratios are almost identical at 8.5lbs/horsepower. Performance should be very similar, with the Honda having a very minimal advantage. It will be interesting to see what real world testing reveals.
While I'm not totally enamored of the Warrior, a good friend of mine is. Our dealership let him take it out for a spin, and he came back with a big sh*t-eating grin. He rides an FJ1100 right now, and he says that low-end power feels like the FJ, it handles beautifully, etc. About the only thing missing according to him is the top-end power of the FJ. He put his deposit down on a blue one that day. It arrives in March.
The can sounds... different. Not quite a 'normal' v-twin sound, but it doesn't *suck*. Loboy shotguns will make it that much better.
My thoughts exactly. The local Harley/Buell usually has one demo bike from each of the 4 Harley lines (Sportster, Softail, Dyna, and FL), they have a V-Rod demo, and will let you test any Buell on the floor. The local Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki dealer not only doesn't allow test rides, but has those wonderful "don't sit on any bike without assistance" signs everywhere. They also have a 2000 NEW Honda VFR 800 on the floor priced at $9500 -- the original MSRP! Just proof that bad dealers are not brand specific. These guys drove me into the arms of Buell instead of the variety of Japanese bikes I was interested in.
I really would like to test this new Warrior -- it seems like a really interesting bike. I might have to go to a dealer in another city.
i agree with you. If the title of the comparison is "Power Cruisers" than the Valkyrie should be included, as well as the VMax. If it was called "V-Twin Power Cruisers" that's a different story. I would love to see a comparo between the Valkyrie, the Vmax, that "James Bond" BMW, and the biggest baddest V-twins.
Sounds like this 10k new bike is almost as good as his *17 year old FJ (*1100 last made in 85).. I would expect more bottom end than the old FJ though which, stock, makes a mere 72ft/lbs, around 5k or so.
I also am an FJ fan/owner (91) could you tell Never ridden a Warrior, but did ride my buddies VTX, which DOES have a sh*t load of umph down low, more even than the FJ. Too bad the rev-limiter kicks in so quick.
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