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Not the type of bike I would personally consider owning; too much of a porker for my tastes. But that dyno chart -- 90 foot-pounds of torque at 1800 rpm!!! Can that be for real? That's enough to make most any power hungry madman drool.
 

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Wow, and that's without Yamaha's 'Speedstar' upgrades (or whatever they're called).

Amazing low-end torque. Makes a Busa look anemic down low. Too bad about the redline.

Can someone answer a couple of questions for me?

1. How much does this bike weigh with all fluids and gas?

2. How does the VTX compare in the nether-regions of the RPM range (like 1500-3000)?

3. Which bike won the Open Cruiser shootout?

4. Why is the Warrior mentioned with the V-Rod, VTX, Mean Streak, and V-Max, but the Valkyrie is left out? Isn't it a 'powerful cruiser'?

5. In the review (or just right here) can you post info on top speed at redline in each gear? Thanks.

6. Does it wheelie?
 

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I got to sit on one of these gorgeous bikes at the last show here in the DFW area and the job Yamaha has to to breed in a sporting feel to a cruiser is great!



The only thing I noticed that might slow me down is the right side air box cover contacts me solidly in the knee when I put my foot on the peg. If the bike is a shaker that would be a bad thing.
 

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The Valkyrie is in a catagory unto itself. All the bikes mentioned are twins. The only thing the Valk has in common with these bikes is the two wheels. Believe me, it doesn't belong in this group.

It's power is huge as is the rest of the bike. The only thing that keeps it on the road in fast turns is it's power. The front end is heavy and tends to fall into turns. It also shakes pretty bad when taking advantage of it's amazing lean-angle but the power is there to settle things down.

You are correct that the Valkyrie is a power bike but these comparos need to be limited to bikes that are in direct compatition with each other. They really are that different from Honda's Valkyrie.

Also, I'm not sure about the twins but the Valk will lay down rubber in first & second and if it hooks up it'll push that huge front end into the air in first and pop it up in second as well.

Had to sell my Valk as it brought out in me the natural born hulligan that I am. Not my best feature. :->~
 

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This thing looks a lot better in person than it does in pictures. The huge can looks better for some reason.



The power figures are in impressive. I find it kind of funny that Yamaha built its power cruiser with an AC twin while Harley went with the DOHC LC twin. However, a couple of mags have reported that Harley may come out with its own monster size air cooled version of the TC 88.



I would love to take this thing out for a spin. Too bad my local dealership doesn't offer test rides.
 

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Rider says the Warrior wieghs about 650lbs wet, the Mean Streak won the shootout by overall competence, not performance, the only reason that the Valkyrie could be left out is that it isn't a V motor. I agree that if non twins were allowed the Valkyrie should have been included.
 

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If you calculate the power to wieght ratio of the Warrior, 650lbs/76 horsepower and the VTX, 750lbs/88 horsepower, the ratios are almost identical at 8.5lbs/horsepower. Performance should be very similar, with the Honda having a very minimal advantage. It will be interesting to see what real world testing reveals.

 

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> All the bikes mentioned are twins

Nuh-uh... there was a v-max in that comparo. and big deal about the twin - 4 - 6 thing anyway, the Valk is a power cruiser and would've made a good comparo.. I wish they'd included it.
 

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While I'm not totally enamored of the Warrior, a good friend of mine is. Our dealership let him take it out for a spin, and he came back with a big sh*t-eating grin. He rides an FJ1100 right now, and he says that low-end power feels like the FJ, it handles beautifully, etc. About the only thing missing according to him is the top-end power of the FJ. He put his deposit down on a blue one that day. It arrives in March.



The can sounds... different. Not quite a 'normal' v-twin sound, but it doesn't *suck*. Loboy shotguns will make it that much better. :)
 

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My thoughts exactly. The local Harley/Buell usually has one demo bike from each of the 4 Harley lines (Sportster, Softail, Dyna, and FL), they have a V-Rod demo, and will let you test any Buell on the floor. The local Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki dealer not only doesn't allow test rides, but has those wonderful "don't sit on any bike without assistance" signs everywhere. They also have a 2000 NEW Honda VFR 800 on the floor priced at $9500 -- the original MSRP! Just proof that bad dealers are not brand specific. These guys drove me into the arms of Buell instead of the variety of Japanese bikes I was interested in.

I really would like to test this new Warrior -- it seems like a really interesting bike. I might have to go to a dealer in another city.
 

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i agree with you. If the title of the comparison is "Power Cruisers" than the Valkyrie should be included, as well as the VMax. If it was called "V-Twin Power Cruisers" that's a different story. I would love to see a comparo between the Valkyrie, the Vmax, that "James Bond" BMW, and the biggest baddest V-twins.
 

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Cool, I ride an FJ1100 as well. :eek:) Basic performance mods and 'fixes' (brakes, 2nd gear, fork spring, oil cooler, cam lobe, MEZ2 tires, carb needles).



The FJ is still a beast, but with 90 rwTQ at 1800, I'd expect the Warrior to have a bit torquier feel (despite the 80 pounds extra weight and undoubtedly taller gearing).



Then again, the FJ pulls 4000 RPMs higher at redline than the Warrior.
 

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Sounds like this 10k new bike is almost as good as his *17 year old FJ (*1100 last made in 85).. I would expect more bottom end than the old FJ though which, stock, makes a mere 72ft/lbs, around 5k or so.

I also am an FJ fan/owner (91) could you tell :) Never ridden a Warrior, but did ride my buddies VTX, which DOES have a sh*t load of umph down low, more even than the FJ. Too bad the rev-limiter kicks in so quick.
 
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