Yamaha's 2001 YZR500 Test
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Go Gary McCoy!
Gary McCoy's a pretty cool guy. His riding style's crazy-- it looks like he's sliding around in the mud with a dirtbike rather than on a track with a 200 bhp TZR-500! Wish that I could ride like that. Not only is he fast, but he's fun to watch, as opposed to the surgical precision that characterizes the riding style of some other riders. Yamaha's really wants to win; they've got a ton of talented riders on their side for 2001. But Honda's got tons of talent (I'm looking forward to watching Chris Walker). Hey, GP's may be getting interesting!
Gary McCoy's a pretty cool guy. His riding style's crazy-- it looks like he's sliding around in the mud with a dirtbike rather than on a track with a 200 bhp TZR-500! Wish that I could ride like that. Not only is he fast, but he's fun to watch, as opposed to the surgical precision that characterizes the riding style of some other riders. Yamaha's really wants to win; they've got a ton of talented riders on their side for 2001. But Honda's got tons of talent (I'm looking forward to watching Chris Walker). Hey, GP's may be getting interesting!
Re: Go Gary McCoy!
haga is awesome. he rides crazy on the superbikes, but if you read his interviews, he seems to be a very adaptable rider. In sport rider, he said that he did no tlike the 2-strokes as much, bu ti think he will get there and settle in. I wish him luck, esp. after all that BS in WSBK
haga is awesome. he rides crazy on the superbikes, but if you read his interviews, he seems to be a very adaptable rider. In sport rider, he said that he did no tlike the 2-strokes as much, bu ti think he will get there and settle in. I wish him luck, esp. after all that BS in WSBK
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Yamaha in WSBK
Yamaha is in fact not pulling out of WSBK, they are going to have a team, as is Harley Davidson, and I want to say one other oddball team I can't think of at this moment.
Don't ask me details, look around at the racing sites and you will find something.
Rob
Yamaha is in fact not pulling out of WSBK, they are going to have a team, as is Harley Davidson, and I want to say one other oddball team I can't think of at this moment.
Don't ask me details, look around at the racing sites and you will find something.
Rob
Re: 600 Shootout!!
I certainly hope you're not saying that an SV650 is better than an R6. That and you're out of your mind if you think we don't get good bikes in the 600 class here in the U.S. Who do you suppose is supporting the vast majority of these sales numbers we keep seeing on the rise? Not the Dutch.
I certainly hope you're not saying that an SV650 is better than an R6. That and you're out of your mind if you think we don't get good bikes in the 600 class here in the U.S. Who do you suppose is supporting the vast majority of these sales numbers we keep seeing on the rise? Not the Dutch.
Re: 600 Shootout!!
If you go to Europe, or even upstairs to Canada, you will see a different (and sometimes wider) selection of standard bikes, "sporty" bikes, and even sportbikes. I guess that's cause these bikes are no match for the American public's Harley love affair. Has anyone seen the Yamaha France catalogue? Check out the Fazer 600, FJR1300, TDM850, TT600 (enduro), and even a 125 cruiser! I'm not kidding! And it's the same with other manufacturers too. People have different expectations and different preferences in different parts of the world.
If you go to Europe, or even upstairs to Canada, you will see a different (and sometimes wider) selection of standard bikes, "sporty" bikes, and even sportbikes. I guess that's cause these bikes are no match for the American public's Harley love affair. Has anyone seen the Yamaha France catalogue? Check out the Fazer 600, FJR1300, TDM850, TT600 (enduro), and even a 125 cruiser! I'm not kidding! And it's the same with other manufacturers too. People have different expectations and different preferences in different parts of the world.
Re: Go Gary McCoy!
It's that sliding style used by Eddie Lawson and other American riders that revolutionized motorcycle racing. They brought dirt racing skills to the pavement. Before that people thought the best way to corner was to brake into it, lean down, and throttle your way out of it. That wouldn't work in the dirt very well. But depending on the straightaway-turn pattern of a particular road racetrack if you could slide around as you brake and accelerate you can actually outcorner a rider who's leaned over more than you. Same thing with a car and using its parking brakes to lock the back wheels to induce a controlled skid so that you can sweep hairpins. If it's done wrong, it takes more time than not sliding at all. And it's 10 times more fun to slide a streetbike on dry pavement then not to slide it. Or even a dirtbike on the street, like in motard. You have to know the limits of when the slide would end up a in a crash. You have to make the tires work with you, letting it slide when you want it to and not letting it slide when you don't. Otherwise, it won't work. That's what makes it so interesting. But I guess it depends on one's racing style.
It's that sliding style used by Eddie Lawson and other American riders that revolutionized motorcycle racing. They brought dirt racing skills to the pavement. Before that people thought the best way to corner was to brake into it, lean down, and throttle your way out of it. That wouldn't work in the dirt very well. But depending on the straightaway-turn pattern of a particular road racetrack if you could slide around as you brake and accelerate you can actually outcorner a rider who's leaned over more than you. Same thing with a car and using its parking brakes to lock the back wheels to induce a controlled skid so that you can sweep hairpins. If it's done wrong, it takes more time than not sliding at all. And it's 10 times more fun to slide a streetbike on dry pavement then not to slide it. Or even a dirtbike on the street, like in motard. You have to know the limits of when the slide would end up a in a crash. You have to make the tires work with you, letting it slide when you want it to and not letting it slide when you don't. Otherwise, it won't work. That's what makes it so interesting. But I guess it depends on one's racing style.
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Re: 600 Shootout!!
That Fazer 600 is exactly what I am talking about. I've got one (2001 S version) myself. Its a cheaper more flexy frame with a Thundercat based engine, build for more midrange (62Nm torque at the backwheel). Carbon race can. The suspension is cheaper and you can only adjust preload. The swingarm is from a FZR1000 and the brakes (calippers, outer disk, pads) are the same as on the R1 / R6. It stands on D207's and its so much fun!
I don't need a R6 because its a wast of money on our roads (you don't need the trick suspension or the last few horsies they can get from the engine) and I don't get the chance to ride on tracks.
On www.yme.com you can find the European range of Yamaha.
That Fazer 600 is exactly what I am talking about. I've got one (2001 S version) myself. Its a cheaper more flexy frame with a Thundercat based engine, build for more midrange (62Nm torque at the backwheel). Carbon race can. The suspension is cheaper and you can only adjust preload. The swingarm is from a FZR1000 and the brakes (calippers, outer disk, pads) are the same as on the R1 / R6. It stands on D207's and its so much fun!
I don't need a R6 because its a wast of money on our roads (you don't need the trick suspension or the last few horsies they can get from the engine) and I don't get the chance to ride on tracks.
On www.yme.com you can find the European range of Yamaha.
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Re: 600 Shootout!!
No I am not saying that, but wasn't the 600 shootout about cheaper 600 alternatives or was somebody telling me crap again?
I love the R6 (and the ZX-6R), but for me its overkill, I could only use 30% of the bike's capabilities because I nerver come on tracks.
Fortunately we have many twisty roads around.
And I do know that you get the best in 600 supersports, just like we get. So what I was trying to say is that the Yamaha FZS600S Fazer is the best thing after the 600 supersports, but that you unfortunately only get the FZS1000 Fazer, wich probably is the best thing after an R1 (or GSX-R1000/ CBR929 / 996 /SP1 etc).
No I am not saying that, but wasn't the 600 shootout about cheaper 600 alternatives or was somebody telling me crap again?
I love the R6 (and the ZX-6R), but for me its overkill, I could only use 30% of the bike's capabilities because I nerver come on tracks.
Fortunately we have many twisty roads around.
And I do know that you get the best in 600 supersports, just like we get. So what I was trying to say is that the Yamaha FZS600S Fazer is the best thing after the 600 supersports, but that you unfortunately only get the FZS1000 Fazer, wich probably is the best thing after an R1 (or GSX-R1000/ CBR929 / 996 /SP1 etc).
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Re: Yamaha
Hey Everybody!
No need to wait for the MO 600cc test anymore. Cycle News, Roadracing World and Superbike all have theirs in print.
So much for the speedy internet.
Hey Everybody!
No need to wait for the MO 600cc test anymore. Cycle News, Roadracing World and Superbike all have theirs in print.
So much for the speedy internet.
Re: Yamaha in WSBK
Harley is going to race in WSBK (World Superbike, or really WSC World Superbike Championship), really? I'd look around the sites for information on this, but I'm sure there is none, because Harley probably isn't even approved for use in WSC.
Maybe you're thinking of the AMA SBK series. But then I'll let you go find the details on that.
Harley is going to race in WSBK (World Superbike, or really WSC World Superbike Championship), really? I'd look around the sites for information on this, but I'm sure there is none, because Harley probably isn't even approved for use in WSC.
Maybe you're thinking of the AMA SBK series. But then I'll let you go find the details on that.
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Re: Yamaha in WSBK
by dean adams
Rumors in Italy have it that there are two bidders for what remains of
the Bimota factory, assets and motorcycles.
After a closed court meeting in late January it is rumored the two
final bidders are a group of Americans, including possibly the
importer, and a French concern.
The Americans are offering five and a half million US, while the
French are offering seven million, yet the Americans have a letter of
credit from a bank while the French do not (again, all according to
well-placed Italian sources).
I don't know on wich site it was, because I've got it from someone who is awaiting his 500cc 2 stroke V-due Evo (for racing in a dutch open series) and he didn't tell.
by dean adams
Rumors in Italy have it that there are two bidders for what remains of
the Bimota factory, assets and motorcycles.
After a closed court meeting in late January it is rumored the two
final bidders are a group of Americans, including possibly the
importer, and a French concern.
The Americans are offering five and a half million US, while the
French are offering seven million, yet the Americans have a letter of
credit from a bank while the French do not (again, all according to
well-placed Italian sources).
I don't know on wich site it was, because I've got it from someone who is awaiting his 500cc 2 stroke V-due Evo (for racing in a dutch open series) and he didn't tell.
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