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Re: All New Yamaha R1
Pretty killer looking bike. It's nice to see a few more mechanical bits beneath the skin than the previous R1. Doesn't sound like it's a giant leap forward or anything, but I'll certainly be interested to hear more about it once it's been tested. Oh, and there is more to street riding than sheer horsepower.
Pretty killer looking bike. It's nice to see a few more mechanical bits beneath the skin than the previous R1. Doesn't sound like it's a giant leap forward or anything, but I'll certainly be interested to hear more about it once it's been tested. Oh, and there is more to street riding than sheer horsepower.
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Well, I must say that I was hoping for a little more than this. How about some ram air??? I agree with the other post and feel that the GSXR-1000 will still be the daddy on the streets, and racetracks of America. Yamaha, what are you thinking??? The styling is ugly! The original R1 broke molds and had a fresh, new look. Now, it just looks like you are trying too hard. On another note, if I could only get Kawasaki to update the ZX-7R I would be a happy boy. Less weight and more power! God bless America.
Well, I must say that I was hoping for a little more than this. How about some ram air??? I agree with the other post and feel that the GSXR-1000 will still be the daddy on the streets, and racetracks of America. Yamaha, what are you thinking??? The styling is ugly! The original R1 broke molds and had a fresh, new look. Now, it just looks like you are trying too hard. On another note, if I could only get Kawasaki to update the ZX-7R I would be a happy boy. Less weight and more power! God bless America.
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I think that the styling is too angular, and should have been left more like the 'old' R1, or taken from the R7.
Yamaha could have done more in the engine department, for those who can really use the power..of which I am not one. But regardless, lots of people buy open bikes based upon their quarter mile times.
It appears that the chassis may be wonderful. I find it rather odd, that with all of their resources, and knowing the performance of the 2K1 GSXR-1000 that Yamaha chose to do so little in the engine room. Maybe that's a concesssion to riders of less than national caliber.
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I think that the styling is too angular, and should have been left more like the 'old' R1, or taken from the R7.
Yamaha could have done more in the engine department, for those who can really use the power..of which I am not one. But regardless, lots of people buy open bikes based upon their quarter mile times.
It appears that the chassis may be wonderful. I find it rather odd, that with all of their resources, and knowing the performance of the 2K1 GSXR-1000 that Yamaha chose to do so little in the engine room. Maybe that's a concesssion to riders of less than national caliber.
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Well, Yamaha only claims a 3 lb weight loss, and NO ram airbox. Seems as though they spent too much effort in styling/graphics and tail lights, and not enough in performance aimed at the GSXR1000 target. At least the subframe finally is a bolt-on like it should have been since day one. Why didn't they make beating the Suzuki's performance a priority? And they better have addressed the R1's well known less-than-stellar reliability reputation (gearbox, clutch, leaks, cracking hubs,etc).
Seems as though the open superbike class world order stays as it was, especially since Honda's redesigned CBR954 seems at this point to have come up short again. That's typical Honda though- they always have their own engineering philosophy and stick to it even in the face of clear superiority from competing products (engineered flex chassis, smaller engine capacity open class, 16" front wheels, etc.).
Well, Yamaha only claims a 3 lb weight loss, and NO ram airbox. Seems as though they spent too much effort in styling/graphics and tail lights, and not enough in performance aimed at the GSXR1000 target. At least the subframe finally is a bolt-on like it should have been since day one. Why didn't they make beating the Suzuki's performance a priority? And they better have addressed the R1's well known less-than-stellar reliability reputation (gearbox, clutch, leaks, cracking hubs,etc).
Seems as though the open superbike class world order stays as it was, especially since Honda's redesigned CBR954 seems at this point to have come up short again. That's typical Honda though- they always have their own engineering philosophy and stick to it even in the face of clear superiority from competing products (engineered flex chassis, smaller engine capacity open class, 16" front wheels, etc.).
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Do we really need that extra peak HP? I hardly ever redlined my R1. I think more hp in the low-mid range would be useful
Do we really need that extra peak HP? I hardly ever redlined my R1. I think more hp in the low-mid range would be useful
All New Yamaha R1
Uh.......................... I don't know what to say except, WTF is wrong with Yamaha!!! They took one of the best looking open class sport bikes (if youre denying that the current generation R1 isnt gorgeous you must be kidding yourself) and turned it into a a .. well, frankly, Im at a loss for words. I am still debating whether I out and out hate the new styling or not but one thing for sure is it looks way worse (by how much, you be the judge) than the bike it is replacing. Not only is the R1 only a few pieces of plastic away from mimicking the new naked bikes (whats the deal with the square chunk of the siding taken out?) that are all the rage but the color scheme (minus the traditional blue and white) is absolutely horrible. They took the red and white color scheme, which I wasnt all that crazy about to begin with but were slowly growing on me (still not as good as the blue and white) and made sure that no one in their right mind would purchase this bike with those colors. If you doubt me, just go here and check it out http://www.motorcycledaily.com/17sept01yamaha2002r1.html. As far as the silver and black goes, this bike would actually not look that bad if the whole freaking middle panel wasnt black. If they would have just made the middle piece silver it would look so much better. The way it stands now it looks as if they ran out of paint and just slapped on the siding unfinished. Needless to say, I am disappointed. I was so looking forward to what they would do with the new R1 (remember, this is just commenting on styling, the bike Im sure probably handles like a dream) and to have this shadow of its former self show up is a big disappointment. I just pray that they dont do the same to the R6 next year when it is do for a redesign. Btw, the R6 is the best looking sport bike out there right now, period. There are some close 2nds and 3rds but the 6 still beats them out (in case you forgot what it looks like http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1, absolutely stunning). Oh well, Ill wait patiently for the riding review before totally condemning this bike but so far, Yamaha is off to a bad start.
In case youre wondering, I am the true definition of a squid (at least I think I am, been riding for a little more than a year now) and youd be surprised how many of us are out there (a lot more than will admit it) and our opinion DOES matter. Happy and safe riding all.
Uh.......................... I don't know what to say except, WTF is wrong with Yamaha!!! They took one of the best looking open class sport bikes (if youre denying that the current generation R1 isnt gorgeous you must be kidding yourself) and turned it into a a .. well, frankly, Im at a loss for words. I am still debating whether I out and out hate the new styling or not but one thing for sure is it looks way worse (by how much, you be the judge) than the bike it is replacing. Not only is the R1 only a few pieces of plastic away from mimicking the new naked bikes (whats the deal with the square chunk of the siding taken out?) that are all the rage but the color scheme (minus the traditional blue and white) is absolutely horrible. They took the red and white color scheme, which I wasnt all that crazy about to begin with but were slowly growing on me (still not as good as the blue and white) and made sure that no one in their right mind would purchase this bike with those colors. If you doubt me, just go here and check it out http://www.motorcycledaily.com/17sept01yamaha2002r1.html. As far as the silver and black goes, this bike would actually not look that bad if the whole freaking middle panel wasnt black. If they would have just made the middle piece silver it would look so much better. The way it stands now it looks as if they ran out of paint and just slapped on the siding unfinished. Needless to say, I am disappointed. I was so looking forward to what they would do with the new R1 (remember, this is just commenting on styling, the bike Im sure probably handles like a dream) and to have this shadow of its former self show up is a big disappointment. I just pray that they dont do the same to the R6 next year when it is do for a redesign. Btw, the R6 is the best looking sport bike out there right now, period. There are some close 2nds and 3rds but the 6 still beats them out (in case you forgot what it looks like http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1, absolutely stunning). Oh well, Ill wait patiently for the riding review before totally condemning this bike but so far, Yamaha is off to a bad start.
In case youre wondering, I am the true definition of a squid (at least I think I am, been riding for a little more than a year now) and youd be surprised how many of us are out there (a lot more than will admit it) and our opinion DOES matter. Happy and safe riding all.
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Well, I'm happy to see that you did correctly identify yourself as a squid at the end of your comment.
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion...it just so happens that yours seems so off that it really doesn't matter what you think.
Good thing companies like Yamaha, etc doesn't have someone with your credentials working for them in their styling departments.
Well, I'm happy to see that you did correctly identify yourself as a squid at the end of your comment.
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion...it just so happens that yours seems so off that it really doesn't matter what you think.
Good thing companies like Yamaha, etc doesn't have someone with your credentials working for them in their styling departments.
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I'm with you man....Where, except on a racetrack, can one utilize what a bike of this caliber has to offer? I currently own a FZ1, but I have owed R6's and a 2000 R1 and can HONESTLY admit, I could never use all that is there on any of these machines. I have over 20 years of solid riding under my belt, and can't imagine needing more H.P. than what this bike will offer.
I'm with you man....Where, except on a racetrack, can one utilize what a bike of this caliber has to offer? I currently own a FZ1, but I have owed R6's and a 2000 R1 and can HONESTLY admit, I could never use all that is there on any of these machines. I have over 20 years of solid riding under my belt, and can't imagine needing more H.P. than what this bike will offer.
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Let us not forget that MO and a few other notable magazines, picked last years R1 over the Gixxer as an overall streebike.
We should consider how and where we will ride this motorcycle and then make our judgements on it's merrits.
I'm confident that if YAMAHA wanted it to have more H.P. than the GSX-R1000 it could have built it.
Let us not forget that MO and a few other notable magazines, picked last years R1 over the Gixxer as an overall streebike.
We should consider how and where we will ride this motorcycle and then make our judgements on it's merrits.
I'm confident that if YAMAHA wanted it to have more H.P. than the GSX-R1000 it could have built it.
Hmm....
Kinda interesting, but I'm not sure I like the direction the R1 has been going aesthetically. It's starting to look so...skeletal. But what do I care, I'll never buy an R1 anyway. The new VFR is my next interest. I hope MO posts more detailed info on it as soon as they get it.
Kinda interesting, but I'm not sure I like the direction the R1 has been going aesthetically. It's starting to look so...skeletal. But what do I care, I'll never buy an R1 anyway. The new VFR is my next interest. I hope MO posts more detailed info on it as soon as they get it.
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Same old scap R-1. Tree huggin Honda must be influencing Yamaha now. At least Suzuki will let the horsepower flow with a great chassis. I also heard the Gixer 1000 is gonna pic up a few more ponies for 2002. Guess I'll hang onto my Gsxr1000 and continue stompin the masses. (i can't wait for the replies) Hehe
Same old scap R-1. Tree huggin Honda must be influencing Yamaha now. At least Suzuki will let the horsepower flow with a great chassis. I also heard the Gixer 1000 is gonna pic up a few more ponies for 2002. Guess I'll hang onto my Gsxr1000 and continue stompin the masses. (i can't wait for the replies) Hehe
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I tend to agree that the new look is soured. By the looks of some of these posts, Yamaha has created the "love it or hate it" kind of styling that Dodge is famous for. Personally, I think it's taken on a DBC (Designed By Committee) look. I guess that's what happens when you (Yamaha) ask for input on your website from anyone who has a computer. Maybe they just should have polled the people that actually show up at a racetrack. I also agree that 2 more HP does not a "benchmark" bike make (read this sentence as if you were Yoda and you'll understand).
I tend to agree that the new look is soured. By the looks of some of these posts, Yamaha has created the "love it or hate it" kind of styling that Dodge is famous for. Personally, I think it's taken on a DBC (Designed By Committee) look. I guess that's what happens when you (Yamaha) ask for input on your website from anyone who has a computer. Maybe they just should have polled the people that actually show up at a racetrack. I also agree that 2 more HP does not a "benchmark" bike make (read this sentence as if you were Yoda and you'll understand).
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You know what opinions are like... everyone has one and they all stink. Yours seems to stink more than most. I dig being able to see more of the engine. I think this bike looks more svelt compared to the old R1, at least in the picture. I also think that anyone who buys a bike purely for looks is LAME. Of course, that's my opinion, and to some it may stink, too. Just try to remember to not state opinion as fact.
You know what opinions are like... everyone has one and they all stink. Yours seems to stink more than most. I dig being able to see more of the engine. I think this bike looks more svelt compared to the old R1, at least in the picture. I also think that anyone who buys a bike purely for looks is LAME. Of course, that's my opinion, and to some it may stink, too. Just try to remember to not state opinion as fact.
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